Frequently Asked Questions
Q. Where is the fleet of aircraft based?
A. We are currently flying out of Worms
Q. What is the phone number of the club and where is your club located?
A. The club does not have any employees or anyone to answer a phone. It is a private organization with only club members to provide what administration is required. Our club house and pilot lounge is located at the Worms Airport
physical location but we are working on getting some office space in the Wiesbaden area.
Q. Does the club offer ground school?
A. Yes, the club is not only a cost sharing group. We also self train under part 61 of the FARs. Club and FAA Certified Flight Instructors are able to offer their own instruction to other members under Part 61, Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) and the SOFA agreement. Sometimes the club instructors get together and offer collective instruction to a group of their students as an added bonus. For upcoming classes please see Become a Pilot Page.
Q. Where can I get an FAA flight physical in Germany?
A. There are many FAA authorized doctors in Germany that can perform FAA flight physicals. Just Google "FAA medical examiners in Germany" We have had great service from Lufthansa Medical at the Frankfurt Airport.
Q. Do you offer FAA written exams?
A. Yes, through a cooperation with the Education Center the club offers FAA written exams. Written exams can only be offered to US Citizens who are Active or retired Military and DoD Civilians. Testing is not available to contractors or non US Citizens and this service is exclusive to the Coleman AeroClub.
Q. Do you offer FAA Checkrides?
A. Yes, the club has a DPE that will travel to Germany to give you a checkride in the aircraft and airspace you have been training in since your first hour.
Q. How much does it cost to join and fly with the club?
A. The club has monthly dues, an initiation fee, insurance fee and a refundable deposit. You also pay an hourly wet (including fuel) rate for the aircraft and if you fly with an instructor, an hourly instructor fee. You will be conducting your flights under the FAA and international regulations in “N” (US registered) club aircraft as an aircraft co-owner with other club members.
Membership Dues & Fees are as follows:
Initiation fee (payable once on joining): $ 99
Refundable deposit (payable once on joining): $ 100
Yearly insurance fee (first year mandatory on joining): $ 125
Monthly dues: $ 40
Aircraft rates are as follows - they cover the costs of fuel, oil, insurance, maintenance, tie-down-fees, etc:
N884CA (172): $150/hour
N72401 (172): $150/hour
N81CA (TB-10): $150/hour
***Fees Current at time of publication. Subject to change anytime.
There are also landing fees associated with every German airfield that range from 5 Euros to 25 euros per landing (and up depending on the airport).
Q. I am interested in learning to fly. How much does it cost and how many hours are required to earn a license?
A. Training under Part 61, Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) section 61.109, requires at least 40 hours of flight time, including 20 hours of flight with an instructor and 10 hours of solo flight (i.e., by yourself), and other requirements including cross-country flight. However, most people take more time to become a pilot, sometimes as much as 20 hours more than required by the FAA minimum. This is especially true in this environment where flying is very limited by weather and full time work schedules. Therefore the costs are highly variably. We typically tell a prospective student to budget for $7200 - $10,000 (way less than a Harley!) to cover (generally) most of the costs of getting a Private Pilot License (PPL). For a complexity dedicated student the license can be achieved in 40 Hours as the FAA requires, however those with full time careers or other time intesive obligations it could take a fw extra hours because they might need to review between lessons if it has been awhile. Either way, once earned, your PPL will last a lifetime and is a stepping stone into many aviation careers.
One of the other advantages to taking lessons with the club, is that you have an opportunity to take the written and practical exam at a highly reduced price, which can easily save you hundreds of dollars opposed taking the exams in the US.
You will be conducting training under the FAA part 61 regulations in “N” (US &USAREUR registered) club aircraft as an aircraft co-owner with other club members.
There is a wealth of information from the FAA on this topic here:
Q. I just want to go up on a flight to see what it’s like. Is that possible?
A. Yes, we call them Orientation Flights. You can arrange one flight with an instructor without joining the club to see if you think flying is for you, or just for sight-seeing, give a present to a loved one, or whatever. You will pay the hourly rate for the aircraft, the instructor rate, and whatever landing charges the flight accrues.
Q. Are your flying courses covered by VA or Tuition Assistance?
A. Only Active Duty Army can use TA for Ground Classes. Flight instruction is not covered at the club, however it would be at a CONUS Flight Academy.
Q. What airplanes do you have in the club?
A. We have two Cessna 172 (four-person) airplanes and one Socata TB-10 (4-person) airplane.
Q. Can you do instrument instruction in your aircraft?
A. Yes, we can offer instrument instruction and checkrides.
Q. Can you give Biennial Flight Reviews (BFR)?
A. Yes, any FAA certified flight instructor can give a BFR, at his or her discretion, and this can usually be accomplished in conjunction with a club checkout.
Q. I am a local national citizen with an FAA pilot license; am I able to join your club and fly your aircraft?
A. At the current time, no; club membership is limited to members under SOFA status.
Q. What is required for a licensed pilot to get checked out in your aircraft?
A. The club requires a minimum of two local checkout flights and a cross-country with a club instructor. This is a comparatively more involved checkout than one with an FBO or club in the states, but flying in Germany is challenging for someone who has not flown in Europe before and the club wants to ensure a new member is up to the challenge. You will need all the same requirements to fly club aircraft as you would need to fly in the states, including your PPL (or higher), your current FAA medical certificate, FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit, and a current BFR endorsement in your logbook.
Q. I need an FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit. How do I get one?
A. To apply for an RP, you need to complete FCC Form 605. To obtain FCC forms, call (202) 418-3676 or go here: http://transition.fcc.gov/Forms/Form605/605.html. The fee is $60
Q. I am an FAA CFI and would like to give instruction in club aircraft; is this possible?
A. Yes it is. It requires a checkout as a club CFI with the Chief Flight Instructor.